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07/10/09 03:06 PM #7    

 

Ilene Soroka (MacDonald)

We have thirteen folks so far for the Motown Tour.

John and Sheila Kirvale
Karen Schulte Ladd
Ilene Soroka MacDonald
Jerry Doyle
Linda Jednyak Sandoval
Diane (Wawrzyniec) and Larry Vidovic
Ken and Sharon Seguin
Marcia Gogolowski Hladun
Ed and Patrice (Gavin) Katroscik

How about YOU?

07/17/09 08:07 PM #8    

Patrice Gavin (Katroscik)

RE: Hitsville

Add Ed and I to the list for Hitsville USA

We'll be in town from Aug 7 to Aug 16 - staying with relatives.


07/18/09 09:44 AM #9    

 

Kenneth Seguin

These were the 73 songs that hit #1 on the charts, from the time we started classes as Freshmen at the beginning of the school year until Senior graduation. At approximately 3 minutes per song, it would take over 3.5 hours to hear them all, and some are good for listening, but not necessarily for dancing. At any rate, here's a start to take you down Memory Lane:

Sep-Dec 1965: (Starting Monday, September 7, 1965)
1. Help! - Beatles
2. Eve of Destruction - Barry McGuire
3. Hang on Sloopy - McCoys
4. Yesterday - Beatles
5. Get Off of My Cloud - Rolling Stones
6. I Hear a Symphony - Supremes
7. Turn, Turn, Turn - Byrds
8. Over and Over - Dave Clark Five

Jan-Dec 1966
1. The Sounds of Silence - Simon & Garfunkle
2. We Can Work It Out - Beatles
3. My Love - Petula Clark
4. Lightnin' Strikes - Lou Christie
5. These Boots Are Made for Walkin' - Nancy Sinatra
6. The Ballad of the Green Berets - Barry Sadler
7. Soul and Inspiration - Righteous Brothers
8. Good Lovin' - Young Rascals
9. Monday, Monday - Mama's and Papa's
10. When a Man Loves a Woman - Percy Sledge
11. Paint It Black - Rolling Stones
12. Paperback Writer - Beatles
13, Strangers in the Night - Frank Sinatra
14. Hanky Panky - Tommy James & the Shondells
15. Wild Thing - Troggs
16. Summer in the City - Lovin' Spoonful
17. Sunshine Superman - Donovan
18. You Can't Hurry Love - Supremes
19. Cherish - Association
20. Reach Out I'll Be There - Four Tops
21. 96 Tears - Question Mark & the Mysterians
22. Last Train to Clarksville - Monkees
23. Poor Side of Town - Johnny Rivers
24. You Keep Me Hangin' On - Supremes
25. Winchester Cathedral - New Vaudeville Band
26. Good Vibrations - Beach Boys
27. I'm a Believer - Monkees

Jan-Dec 1967
1. Kind of a Drag - Buckinghams
2. Ruby Tuesday - Rolling Stones
3. Love is Here and Now You're Gone - Supremes
4. Penny Lane - Beatles
5. Happy Together - Tuurtles
6. Somethin' Stupid - Frank and Nancy Sinatra
7. The Happening - Supremes
8. Groovin' - Young Rascals
9. Respect - Aretha Franklin
10. Windy - Association
11. Light My Fire - Doors
12. All You Need is Love - Beatles
13. Ode to Billy Joe - Bobbie Gentry
14. The Letter - Box Tops
15. To Sir with Love - Lulu
16. Incense and Peppermint - Strawberry Alarm Clock
17. Daydream Believer - Monkees
18. Hello, Goodbye - Beatles

Jan-Dec 1968
1. Judy in Disguise - John Fred & His Playboy Band
2. Green Tambourine - Lemon Pipers
3. Love is Blue - Paul Mauriat
4. Sittin' on the Dock of the Bay - Otis Redding
5. Honey - Bobby Goldsboro
6. Tighten Up - Archie Bell & the Drells
7. Mrs Robinson - Simon & Garfunkle
8. This Guy's in Love with You - Herb Alpert
9. Grazing in the Grass - Hugh Maskekela
10. Hello, I Love You - Doors
11. People Got to Be Free - Rascals
12. Harper Valley PTA - Jeannie C. Riley
13. Hey Jude - Beatles
14. Love Child - Supremes
15. I Heard It Through the Grapevine - Marvin Gaye

Jan-Jun 1969 (Graduation on Sunday, June 8, 1969)
1. Crimson and Clover - Tommy James & the Shondells
2. Everyday People - Sly & the Family Stone
3. Dizzy - Tommy Roe
4. Aquarius - Fifth Dimension
5. Get Back - Beatles

07/18/09 10:26 AM #10    

David Novock

gettin jiggy with it yea gettin jiggy with it cool song from the 60 sssss.........................

07/18/09 04:57 PM #11    

 

Kenneth Seguin

Does this mean we won't be listening to George Strait and Toby Keith, or dancing to "Achy Breaky Heart," "Boot Scootin' Boogie," or the "Cotton Eyed Joe?"

07/19/09 09:49 AM #12    

Diane Wawrzyniec (Vidovic)

My guess is that we'll do a little Boot Scootin Boogie, and some Friends in Low Places. I can remember some linedancing in the Blue Room, so maybe get ready for a linedance or two--the Cupid Shuffle, and the Cleveland Shuffle, and then there's the Obama Shuffle to Signed, Sealed, Delivered. Nothing will be sealed in concrete, Bob is very good at taking requests.

And, Ken, thanks for the list--and to the rest of you, even if you have one favorite, please list it.

07/20/09 02:56 PM #13    

Linda Jedynak (Sandoval)

After looking at Ken's list.....there were an awful lot of "white" songs/artists in our high school years....gonna be hard to dance to some of that music. I donno, growin' up on the west side of Detroit....I'm used to Stevie, Martha, Sam Cooke, MJ, Smokey, etc. So, Diane, tell him to bring plenty of Motown. Never line-danced.....but if I can do "My eyes don't cry no more" hustle, then I can learn to line dance! See y'all in a few weeks.

Linda J-S

07/22/09 01:30 PM #14    

Linda Jedynak (Sandoval)

Hey here's a great "re-union related" story. Yesterday while driving back from airport(went to Seattle for a week), there was a contest on radio to win free tix for Smokey Robinson(July 31st). I was one of the callers who connected, they were looking for someone with a story about Smokey, etc. My story was: I'm from Detroit, going to Hitsville USA tour with former 1969 classmates, last saw Smokey when I first arrived in CA (30yrs ago) and they picked me to win the tix! Come to find out that the DJ was originally also from Detroit, went to Hitsville 2 yrs ago, was impressed, knew where Holy Redeemer was located and THEN we got a plug on the radio station for our re-union and the tour! So next Friday, I will attend the concert, great start for the following week down memory lane.

Linda

07/22/09 04:46 PM #15    

Jerome Doyle

Well done Mrs Sandoval.

Smokey no longer has the Miracles as "back up", they're on their own. In fact, Smokey and his wife Clauduette have seperate careers: She with the Miracles, he on his own.
My mom worked with Geri Moore, Pete Moore, her brother sang as one of the Miracles. Geri gave me "The Miracles Greatest Hits From The Begining" album (yes,vinyl) signed by all the members.



07/26/09 03:51 PM #16    

 

Kenneth Seguin

Okay, the previous list I gave was for those songs that reached #1 on Billboard --- I didn't pick 'em; just listed them.

At the risk of leaving songs out that some would like or prefer, some of my favorites (with a Motown flavor) for the Reunion would be:

SLOW DANCE SONGS
1. When a Man Loves a Woman (Percy Sledge)
2. What's So Good about Goodbye (Miracles)
3. The Tracks of My Tears (Miracles)
4. My Girl (Temptations)
5. You've Lost That Lovin' Feeling (Righteous Bros)
6. Unchained Melody (Righteous Bros)
7. Egg Tide (Righteous Bros)
8. Soul and Inspiration (Righteous Bros)
9. Oh Girl (ChiLites)
10. If You Don't Know Me by Now (Harold Melvin & Bluenotes)
11. Your Precious Love (Jerry Butler)
12. Walk Away Renee (Four Tops)
13. Castles in the Sand (Stevie Wonder)
14. If I Were Your Woman (Gladys Knight)
15. On Broadway (Drifters)
16. Sunny (Bobby Hebb)
17. Stand by Me (Ben E. King)
18. Hello Stranger (Barbara Lewis)
19. Goin' Out of My Head (Little Anthony & the Imperials)
20. Kiss and Say Goodbye (Manhattans)
21. Yes I'm Ready (Barbara Mason)
22. I'm Gonna Make You Love Me (Supremes and Temptations)
23. What Becomes of the Broken Hearted (Jimmy Ruffin)
24. Soldier Boy (Shirelles)
25. Baby It's You (Shirelles)
26. You Make Me Feel Brand New (Stylistics)
27. Walk on By (Dionne Warwick)

NON-MOTOWN SLOW SONGS
1. Crimson and Clover (Tommy James & the Shondells)
2. Baby Let's Wait (Royal Guardsmen)
3 Close to You (Carpenters)
4. Lay Lady Lay (Bob Dylan)
5. Johnny Angel (Shelley Fabares)
6. Don't Let the Sun Catch You Crying (Gerry & the Pacemakers)
7. To Sir with Love (Lulu)
8. Love Theme from Romeo and Juliet (Henry Mancini)
9. The Look of Love (Sergio Mendes)
10. Go Now (Moody Blues)
11. Baby I Need Your Lovin' (Johnny Rivers)
12. Angel of the Morning (Merrilee Rush)

FAST SONGS (MOTOWN and ROCK)
1. Mony Mony (Tommy James & the Shondells or Billy Idol)
2. Jumpin' Jack Flash (Rolling Stones)
3. Shout (Isley Brothers)
4. Takin' Care of Business (Bachman Turner Overdrive)
5. Do You Love Me (Contours)
6. Keep on Dancin' (Gentrys)
7. Ramblin' Gamblin' Man (Bob Seger)
8. Cool Jerk (Capitols)
9. Midnight Confessions (Grass Roots)
10. Long Cool Woman (Hollies)
11. You Really Got Me (Kinks)
12. The Locomotion (Little Eva)
13. Wooly Bully (Sam the Sham & the Pharoahs)
14. Good Lovin' (Rascals)
15. Paint It Black (Rolling Stones)
16. Devil with a Blue Dress (Mitch Ryder)
17. Surfin' Bird (Trashmen)
18. Dance to the Music (Sly & the Family Stone)
19. Dirty Water (Standells)
20. YMCA (Village People)
21. Won't Get Fooled Again (Who)
22. I Hate Myself for Loving You (Joan Jett & the Blackhearts)
23. I Love Rock 'n Roll (Joan Jett & the Blackhearts)

LINE DANCE
1. Walkin' to New Orleans (Fats Domino)
2. In the Still of the Night (Five Satins)
3. The Stroll (Diamonds)

CLOSE-OUT SONG OF THE EVENING WITH THE SAME SONG THAT ENDED OUR SENIOR YEAR PROM DANCE --
1. The Shadow of Your Smile - Love Theme from "The Sandpiper" (Astrud Gilberto)

07/29/09 12:32 AM #17    

Linda Jedynak (Sandoval)

Ok Kenny,

Now you're talking!!! Love most of this list, especially (slow list Motown- #9, 10, 15, 18....too many to name, but its a great list)

And Jerry, admit it, its been a fun way to communicate with old friends, so quit your complainin', and bring your music.

Linda J-S

08/12/09 12:05 AM #18    

Linda Jedynak (Sandoval)

Hey everyone,

I posted some pics on my profile, and I hope others will also post.

I had a great time, glad to have participated in all the weekend festivities. It was great seeing classmates again and hearing all of the past/present about some of you.

I think this website is also really good. Everyone, have a great rest of the summer, hope some of us keep in touch and Nancy Cini, I like your idea about the women.....we just need a good name!

Linda

08/15/09 02:56 PM #19    

 

Ilene Soroka (MacDonald)

Hi All,

If anyone has pics from the Reunion, please post them on your profile or better yet, upload them to www.kodakgallery.com and then send me the link. I can put the link on this website and then folks can order what they want from Kodak.

I plan to send an occasional email to everyone, just to jog your memory about this site and to encourage folks to post messages here.

Looking forward to Nancy Cini Podczervinski's Girls' Reunion. Sorry, guys. :)

Ilene

08/17/09 01:38 AM #20    

 

Kenneth Seguin

Linda,

Thanks so much for posting your photos! You did a great job of capturing so many folks on film. Thanks, too, for suggesting the tour at the Motown Museum on Friday -- we had so much fun ("I've got sunshine on a cloudy day...")

I can't figure out if I sound more like Eddie Kendricks or David Ruffin, ha ha.

--Ken

08/23/09 11:25 PM #21    

 

Kenneth Seguin

Diane,

Thanks for sharing the video from Senior Year. Watching the Car Parade in the first half was like watching something out of "American Graffiti." In the Senior Retreat portion of the latter half, I didn't realize there had been a girl's version of the Purple Pyramid! Good stuff!

Ken

08/31/09 03:02 PM #22    

Linda Jedynak (Sandoval)

So where are the the rest of the photos that people took?? Seems like we all had cameras. Would love to see more pics!

Has anyone seen the new Woodstock movie yet? And did anyone GO to Woodstock in Aug. 1969? Would love to here their version. I watched two specials on TV while I was still in MI for the re-union....sure wish I would have made it out there. (A missed opportunity)

Hey Fred "Born to be WILD" Greenhaw....were you @ Woodstock??

Linda

09/11/09 08:08 AM #23    

 

Ilene Soroka (MacDonald)

For anyone interested, I received the Memory Book I ordered from our reunion. Except for the pictures of me (don't we always feel that way!) the book is great. I would strongly suggest you consider ordering one.

11/22/09 01:49 PM #24    

Patrice Gavin (Katroscik)

Rest in Peace Mary Ann!

03/06/10 08:04 PM #25    

 

Karen Schulte (Ladd)

Sister Maura died on February 23rd. If anyone is interested, there is now a Facebook Page for Most Holy Redeemer Parish and other interesting page, Inside Southwest Detroit

09/07/10 03:01 PM #26    

Jerome Doyle

http://apps.detnews.com/apps/history/index.php?id=136

If anyone is interested, here are a few pieces on "Plum Street"


09/18/10 08:58 PM #27    

 

Karen Schulte (Ladd)

It was great seeing so many friends from our class and others at the Reunion on Friday night!  More people come each year and this event keeps getting bigger and better! Add it to your calendar, it is the Friday after Labor Day weekend - hope to see you there next year.  Karen


10/29/18 09:59 PM #28    

 

Kenneth Seguin

These were the 139 most popular songs charted by Billboard magazine on the Motown label or its subsidiary labels of Tamla, Gordy, or Soul records.  Motown was incorporated by Barry Gordy on April 4, 1960.  The list of songs is from 1960 - 1969 and shows the release date of each song.

Date Artist Title
12/12/1960 Miracles Shop Around
9/4/1961 Marvelettes Please Mr Postman
1/13/1962 Miracles What's So Good About Goodbye
3/24/1962 Mary Wells The One Who Really Loves You
5/5/1962 Marvelettes Playboy
5/12/1962 Miracles I'll Try Something New
6/2/1962 Isley Brothers Twist and Shout
8/11/1962 Contours Do You Love Me
8/11/1962 Mary Wells You Beat Me to the Punch
8/11/1962 Marvelettes Beechwood 4-5789
9/15/1962 Miracles Way Over There
10/20/1962 Marvin Gaye Stubborn Kind of Fellow
12/1/1962 Mary Wells Two Lovers
12/8/1962 Miracles You've Really Got a Hold on Me
1/12/1963 Marvin Gaye Hitch Hike
4/6/1963 Martha & the Vandellas Come and Get These Memories
5/18/1963 Marvin Gaye Pride and Joy
8/3/1963 Martha & the Vandellas Heat Wave
8/10/1963 Stevie Wonder Fingertips Part II
8/17/1963 Miracles Mickey's Monkey
10/19/1963 Marvin Gaye Can I Get a Witness
11/23/1963 Martha & the Vandellas Quicksand
11/30/1963 Supremes When the Lovelight Starts
2/8/1964 Martha & the Vandellas Live Wire
2/29/1964 Temptations The Way You Do the Things You Do
2/29/1964 Stevie Wonder Castles in the Sand
3/14/1964 Marvin Gaye You're a Wonderful One
3/14/1964 Supremes Run, Run, Run
4/6/1964 Mary Wells My Guy
5/2/1964 M. Gaye & M. Wells Once Upon a Time
5/30/1964 Temptations I'll Be in Trouble
6/13/1964 Stevie Wonder Hey Harmonica Man
7/11/1964 Supremes Where Did Our Love Go
8/15/1964 Four Tops Baby I Need Your Loving
8/22/1964 Martha & the Vandellas Dancing in the Street
9/12/1964 Temptations Girl (Why You Wanna Make Me Blue)
10/3/1964 Supremes Baby Love
10/3/1964 Supremes Ask Any Girl
11/7/1964 Marvelettes Too Many Fish in the Sea
11/14/1964 Supremes Come See About Me
11/21/1964 Marvin Gaye How Sweet It Is to be Loved by You
11/28/1964 Four Tops Without the One You Love
12/5/1964 Martha & the Vandellas Wild One
1/16/1965 Temptations My Girl
2/6/1965 Four Tops Ask the Lonely
2/13/1965 Jr Walker & the All Stars Shotgun
2/20/1965 Supremes Stop in the Name of Love
2/27/1965 Martha & the Vandellas Nowhere to Run
3/20/1965 Marvin Gaye I'll Be Doggone
3/27/1965 Miracles Ooo Baby Baby
4/3/1965 Temptations It's Growing
5/1/1965 Supremes Back in My Arms Again
5/15/1965 Four Tops I Can't Help Myself
7/17/1965 Miracles The Tracks of My Tears
7/24/1965 Temptations Since I Lost My Baby
7/31/1965 Supremes Nothing But Heartaches
7/31/1965 Four Tops It's the Same Old Song
8/7/1965 Edwin Starr Agent Double-O-Soul
8/14/1965 Contours First I Look at the Purse
8/14/1965 Marvelettes Danger Heartbreak Dead Ahead
10/9/1965 Marvin Gaye Ain't That Peculiar
10/23/1965 Temptations My Baby
10/30/1965 Supremes I Hear a Symphony
11/13/1965 Four Tops Something About You
12/18/1965 Stevie Wonder Uptight (Everything's Alright)
12/18/1965 Temptations Don't Look Back
12/25/1965 Miracles Going to a Go-Go
1/1/1966 Marvelettes Don't Mess with Bill
1/15/1966 Supremes My World Is Empty Without You
1/22/1966 Martha & the Vandellas My Baby Loves Me
2/19/1966 Isley Brothers This Old Heart of Mine
2/19/1965 Four Tops Shake Me, Wake Me
2/26/1966 Temptations Get Ready
4/30/1966 Supremes Love Is Like an Itching in My Heart
5/28/1966 Temptations Ain't Too Proud to Beg
7/23/1966 Stevie Wonder Blowin' in the Wind
8/13/1966 Supremes You Can't Hurry Love
8/20/1966 Temptations Beauty Is Only Skin Deep
8/20/1966 Jimmy Ruffin What Becomes of the Brokenhearted
9/3/1966 Four Tops Reach Out I'll Be There
10/29/1966 Supremes You Keep Me Hangin' On
10/29/1966 Martha & the Vandellas I'm Ready for Love
11/12/1966 Stevie Wonder A Place in the Sun
11/19/1966 Temptations (I Know) I'm Losing You
12/3/1966 Jimmy Ruffin I've Passed This Way Before
12/17/1966 Four Tops Standing in the Shadows of Love
1/7/1967 M. Gaye & K. Weston It Takes Two
1/21/1967 Marvelettes The Hunter Gets Captured by the Game
1/28/1967 Supremes Love Is Here and Now You're Gone
2/18/1967 Miracles The Love I Saw in You Was Just a Mirage
2/25/1967 Martha & the Vandellas Jimmy Mack
3/11/1967 Four Tops Bernadette
3/18/1967 Jimmy Ruffin Gonna Give Her All the Love I've Got
4/8/1967 Supremes The Happening
4/22/1967 Marvelettes When You're Young and in Love
4/29/1967 Temptations All I Need
5/13/1967 M.Gaye & T. Terrell Ain't No Mountain High Enough
5/20/1967 Four Tops 7 Rooms of Gloom
6/10/1967 Stevie Wonder I Was Made to Love Her
6/17/1967 Miracles More Love
7/29/1967 Temptations You're My Everything
8/12/1967 Supremes Reflections
9/9/1967 M. Gaye & T. Terrell Your Precious Love
10/7/1967 Stevie Wonder I'm Wondering
10/14/1967 Temptations (Loneliness Made Me Realize) It's You
10/21/1967 Gladys Knight & the Pips I Heard It Through the Grapevine
11/4/1967 Miracles I Second That Emotion
11/11/1967 Supremes In and Out of Love
11/18/1967 Martha & the Vandellas Honey Chile
12/2/1967 M. Gaye & T. Terrell If I Could Build My Whole World
1/13/1968 Temptations I Wish It Would Rain
2/3/1968 Four Tops Walk Away Renee
3/16/1968 Supremes Forever Came Today
4/6/1968 Stevie Wonder Shoo-Be-Doo-Be-Doo-Da-Day
4/13/1968 M. Gaye & T. Terrell Ain't Nothing Like the Real Thing
4/27/1968 Four Tops If I Were a Carpenter
5/4/1968 Temptations I Could Never Love Another
7/27/1968 M. Gaye & T. Terrell You're All I Need to Get By
8/17/1968 Miracles Special Occasion
10/19/1968 Supremes Love Child
11/2/1968 Stevie Wonder For Once in My Life
11/16/1968 Temptations Cloud Nine
11/23/1968 Marvin Gaye I Heard It Through the Grapevine
12/7/1968 Supremes & Temptations I'm Gonna Make You Love Me
1/25/1969 Supremes I'm Livin' in Shame
2/1/1969 M. Gaye & T. Terrell Good Lovin' Ain't Easy to Come By
2/15/1969 Temptations Run Away Child, Running Wild
2/15/1969 Edwin Starr Twenty-Five Miles
2/15/1969 David Ruffin My Whole World Ended
3/15/1969 Isley Brothers It's Your Thing
4/23/1969 Marvin Gaye Too Busy Thinking about My Baby
5/17/1969 Jr Walker & the All Stars What Does It Take
5/31/1969 Stevie Wonder My Cherie Amour
8/16/1969 Temptations I Can't Get Next to You
8/23/1969 Marvin Gaye That's the Way Love Is
10/18/1969 Stevie Wonder Yester-Me, Yester-You, Yesterday
11/8/1969 Supremes Someday We'll Be Together
11/8/1969 Marvelettes That's How Heartaches Are Made
11/15/1969 Jackson 5 I Want You Back

 

 


05/27/21 08:27 PM #29    

Debra Bessel (Mancini)

Happy Birthday to Mary Ann Gentner Knight! Hope you and your family are doing well. Think of you often.heart


06/05/22 11:54 AM #30    

Andy Darmanin

Happy Birthday John. Wish you many more.

Andy Darmanin 


04/11/24 11:46 AM #31    

Patrick "Mac" Deuparo

Hello Fellow Holy Redeemerites 

we lost another comrad who fought for what Jesus might call the leper's, but what we call the marginalized today.

How blessed were we to be under his guidence... during the 1960's... though the more insitutional catholics might disagree

and such is freedom

and freedom is what he spoke for gays, liesbiens, the poor, ending war in VietNam, nuclear prolifiration...women priest and more power to the lay people

That is "Bishop Gumblelton"... who ran the good race... and leaves us in his place

below a few comments from the New York Times, April 11th

Detroit Catholic, a digital church publication, wrote of Bishop Gumbleton last week that his “early life and ministry were significantly influenced by the Second Vatican Council, which called upon the laity to take up a greater role in the Church, and for the Church to take a greater role in speaking out against injustice.”

His pacifism and other views were part of a progressive tradition in the Catholic Church. He was one of five bishops who, in 1983, drafted a landmark statement by the National Conference of Catholic Bishops that excoriated nuclear weapons.

His views on gay and lesbian people, which he acknowledged had been stamped with the homophobia of his time, evolved faster than church doctrine, beginning when his youngest brother, Dan, came out as gay in the 1980s in a letter to family members. At first, Bishop Gumbleton feared that having a gay brother might affect his standing in the church, he told PBS in 1997, and he threw the letter aside without reading it to the end.

But when his mother asked him if her gay son would go to hell, Bishop Gumbleton said no, and he began a journey of acceptance that led him to speak to NPR about “the beauty of gay love” and to urge the church to accept same-sex marriage.

 So on that note... lets keep up the good fight... lets tax the wealth... as Jesus said, "it will be easier for a camel to go through an eye of a neddle, that for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven."

We can kill two birds with one stone... helping the wealth from damnation... and helping the marginalized enjoy a life of dignity and peace that us successful Redeemerites enjoy in our retirment

PMJD


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